The #BlackLivesMatter movement started officially in 2013. Why do you think 2020 has seen a global unity for the cause, despite there being a global pandemic? The thing about Covid-19 is that we’ve all been forced to be on our phones and to absorb all this information. Everything we’ve seen in the past couple of weeks are things we already knew existed particularly racism, it’s brutality and how it’s embedded into foundations of our systems; it’s just now its taken a world to be in lockdown to have to reckon with something we’ve constantly switched off from in the past. For BIPOC it’s a conversation that has been had for ages. The difference is, in most cases, we don’t need videos or internet to know it exists on our streets and we do not get to switch off from it.

Did you feel a shift in conversations around you? For sure. People, much like when we’re kids, see similarities. Most people in my life see the similarities before differences. Professionally, for people to pop out of the woodwork and suddenly want to be in the conversation, it was a bittersweet thing of “It’s nice you’re joining the conversation …” There was big difference in people taking action and wanting to change, and reaching out for a bandaid solution for that guilt.